about reinvention, career pivots, and the messy middle we don’t talk about enough. In each punchy 20-minute episode, we explore the missteps, gaps, and heartbreaks that often spark new purpose. 

You'll hear from guests who have navigated winding, real-life paths: a comedy writer who became an ER doctor, a hedge fund manager who became a death doula, a K-pop star who became a lawyer—and many others.

The show is hosted by Michelle Weise, a TED speaker and author of Long Life Learning: Preparing for Jobs That Don’t Even Exist Yet, and Dana Allen Walsh, a professional coach and senior pastor at a progressive church who helps people find meaning and direction in moments of transition. This isn’t a podcast about faith, but about finding meaning in the work we do.

We hope you’ll join us to radically rethink what it means to live a life worth working.